4Kids Loses License to Yu-Gi-Oh!, Sued for $4 million by TV Tokyo, NAS

March 29, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Posted in 4Kids, Other Stuff | 60 Comments

Gozaburo Kaiba's reaction after he is ousted from power by Seto in episode 119
A 4Kids exec.

TV Tokyo Corporation and Nihon Ad Systems, Inc. (NAS) — the Japanese producers of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime — have terminated their licensing agreements with 4Kids Entertainment and have filed a breach-of-contract lawsuit against the company, seeking over $4 million in damages. The Japanese licensors allege that 4Kids has been fraudulently hiding the income and deducting the fees they are contractually obligated to pay. This bombshell was dropped by The Hollywood Reporter (via Mania, ANN) earlier this afternoon.

TV Tokyo and NAS claim that 4Kids has engaged in some unsavory agreements with TV networks and video distributors that surreptitiously hid the fees the Japanese licensors were owed. Specifically named are Cartoon Network, who aired the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime; Funimation Productions, who produced and distributed Yu-Gi-Oh! VHS and DVD media; and Majesco Sales Inc., who produced and distributed Yu-Gi-Oh! Game Boy Advance video titles. The trio are not named as defendants in the lawsuit. These alleged deals came to light after the licensors audited 4Kids’ financial records in 2010.

The two parties met in February and again two weeks ago, but were unsuccessful in reaching a resolution. After 4Kids “abruptly terminated” their most recent meeting without resolving the issues, TV Tokyo and NAS severed their contract with 4Kids. A lawsuit was then filed on March 24 at the Southern District Court of New York. And though the article mentions only the parties’ U.S. deal falling through, 4Kids had been holding the distribution rights to the Yu-Gi-Oh! property in all territories outside of Asia. There’s no word yet on how this will affect the future of the property across the globe.

Although this news only broke today, trouble has been brewing between the American licensing company and the Japanese Yu-Gi-Oh! licensors since early 2010. Word first trickled out that something was amiss at 4Kids in August 2010 when they released their report for the second quarter of 2010. 4Kids announced that Asatsu-DK, Inc. (ADK) — the parent company of NAS and a member of the consortium behind the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime property — had audited 4Kids’ books dating back to 2001 during the previous quarter. ADK then submitted a letter to 4Kids alleging that 4Kids had been withholding a share of ADK’s income from the Yu-Gi-Oh! home video sales and had been improperly deducting fees that ADK was owed. The deficit totaled approximately $3,000, which 4Kids disputed.

In November 2010, when they released their report for the third quarter of 2010, 4Kids described providing additional documentation to ADK to address the issues that had resulted from the audit. Though they had not yet received the full audit report, 4Kids believed that all their debts had been paid.

On January 10, 2011 — ten days after the fourth quarter of 2010 had ended — Alfred Kahn resigned as CEO and Chairman of 4Kids’ Board of Directors. This Thursday, March 31, 4Kids will be releasing their Q4 2010 report. Yu-Gi-Oh! fans every are holding their breaths.

Now we know what all that mess was about. Now we know. Still, I would never have predicted a bombshell story like today’s. How on earth did a $3,000 debt swell into a mind-blowing $4 million? (Note: See the update below.)

ADK was not the only company who audited 4Kids in 2010. During the first quarter, The Pokemon Company International (TPC) also investigated 4Kids’ books dating from mid-2001 to 2008. TPC then informed 4Kids that it had found “deficiencies” adding up to nearly $4,700. 4Kids disputed the alleged deficiencies and began its own audit of TPC in June 2010. No further information regarding either of the two audits was available during 4Kids’ most recent quarterly report.

This is horrifying. I’m disheartened to learn that these shady dealings have allegedly been taking place. I’m worried for all of the employees who might be losing their jobs. And after 4Kids had been making so much progress recently subtitling their anime and nurturing a growing relationship with fans, I am beyond distraught that this might be how it all ends. It has been nearly 13 years since Pokemon, the title that brought 4Kids into the limelight, was released. It has been nearly 10 years since Yu-Gi-Oh! first lit up television screens across America. Now, after all that time, after all those memories, good and bad, this is how it all might end? This is unreal. Sickening, even. I can’t believe this.

Update: Foolish fool! The dollar values are reported in thousands! Thus: $3,000 thousand and $4,700 thousand. That makes tremendously more sense. My apologies for the confusion.


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  1. I don’t want to say that this is 4Kids fault. To be perfectly honest, I’m not sure if I can actually believe this, either…do you think that 4Kids would do something like that?

    I’m not really into political stuff, but if 4Kids is innocent of this, then they can file a counter lawsuit towards TV Tokyo and NAS so that they can keep the liscense until the issue settles. If not, then they are admitting guilt, which means that they would indeed lose the licsense.

    I’ve been a Yu-Gi-Oh fan ever since the beginning, and I’ve always watched the Englishs series, no matter what others said about the dub. What does this mean for 5D’s? Or Toonzai? And if this IS true, then we might not be able to see the movie on DVD, which saddens me greatly, because like many others and myself, haven’t seen the movie. I really hope something like this isn’t true…:(.

  2. I hope this ends as bad as possible for 4Kids after everythin they’ve done to all the anime series’ they’ve gotten their greedy hands on. I hope they lose big on this. Plus this is kind of illegal anyways (the money thing the article is about) so I don’t know why this sickens you. It was 90% bad when 4kids got involved.

  3. Yeah, those “official and legal” outlets are working wonders ain’t they?

    ‘Scuse me whilst I kiss the subtitled sky.

  4. @Sonic Phantom
    4Kids believes that they are in the right and that they paid the Japanese licensors what they are owed. That’s the last thing we’ve heard from them. Naturally, I want to believe that’s true. Otherwise, the immediate future of the entire Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise could be in jeopardy, not to mention the livelihoods of all the people who count on getting a paycheck from 4Kids. However, big business moves at a snail’s pace, as does the judicial system. It could be a long time before all of the details are flushed out and we get definite answers about the fate of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s, Toonzai, and the 3D movie. The waiting and uncertainty are easily the worst things for fans to experience in this situation.
    I don’t know what you mean when you say “it was 90% bad when 4Kids got involved.” It’s not the whole “money thing” that sickens me (though that’s still horrible if true). If things really happened as TV Tokyo and NAS claim, then of course it’s illegal and 4Kids has no ground to stand on. I’m just completely blown away that these events have intensified and unfolded in the manner that they have. It’s as if I’m seeing someone that had been living down the street quietly for over a decade suddenly getting taken down and accused of heinous deeds. It’s all terribly unsettling to me.
    @Craig McLeod
    I’m not sure what you mean, since those outlets weren’t named as defendants in the lawsuit. Still, although it wasn’t mentioned, Hulu and YouTube may nevertheless be in the same boat as Cartoon Network, Funimation, and Majesco. Hmm…

  5. The 4Kids company are very dishonest. What’s going to happen to the uncut “Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s” episodes on Toonzaki and Hulu? I think that’s why “Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters” show is taking a long time for it’s release in Japan. “Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters is named in Japan as “Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters ALEX” and the title “ALEX” in Japan is a production name. I went to the site that says “Ask John about anime” and ask him why did they name the production title of the show that’s not yet released in Japan. What do you think of the production title “ALEX”? http://www.animenation.net/blog/2011/03/17/ask-john-why-is-yu-gi-oh-capsule-monsters-called-duel-monsters-alex-in-japan/#more-25009

  6. So… who’s gonna get the 3D movie’s home video rights now?

  7. You might also be interested to know that “NAS” starts to ask YouTube to also disable the episodes of the first series (Toei’s one), I got one episode subbed in french disabled hecause of a “complain” of “Nihon Ads System”.

  8. This better be a joke.

  9. I have never held any hatred towards 4 kids and I just can’t truely understand how everyone can detest them so much. If it wasn’t for 4 kids taking yu-gi-oh under their wing, there would have been no dub. No dubs, no ‘english edition’ duel monster trading cards, no fandom. None of us would know what the hell yu-gi-oh is and even bigger, there never would have been a ABRIDGED SERIES to laugh at.
    Sure, they’re moneygrubbers, but give me the name of a large company that isn’t. I admit though, they overkill when it comes to cencoring.
    This definitely makes the future of this series uncertain. I hate to see this end so badly…

  10. @Joseph Hostage
    Did you by any chance send me an email about Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters ALEX a few days ago? Someone emailed me about that but his or her inbox couldn’t accept my email replies. Anyway, if there were an interest in testing the show out in Japan, I think it would have happened around the time it debuted in the U.S. If it didn’t happen back then, the chances that it’ll happen now seem pretty unlikely. Besides, that Gallop webpage has been there for a quite while now and the show is labeled as “an American TV series” anyway. As you say, “Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters ALEX” was just a working title that was used while the show was in production. As for what will happen to Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s on Toonzaki and Hulu, only time will tell. Like I mentioned to Sonic Phantom above, it could be a while before something concrete is announced. I don’t see how anything you mentioned here supports your claim that 4Kids is dishonest though.
    @Ryan Froula
    Since the DVD is part of the 3D movie release deal that 4Kids previously revealed that they have, it’s still currently in their hands. It remains to be seen whether the movie (or the other parts of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime franchise, for that matter) will be changing hands.
    Oh that’s been going on for quite a while now. LK and others who’ve uploaded video footage from the first series have had their videos yanked, too.
    If only…
    I think people are simply letting their dislike of 4Kids cloud their judgment of this event. This won’t do anything but harm the global Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise.

  11. If this is true and no April Joke, then i laugh till i am dead:D
    The End of worse Dubs…oh God thank you. Everyone get what they deserve.
    And i hope, someone get the License and do it better.


  12. *sigh. Well 4Kids, you know what they say, C’est la vie. You got what was coming. Thank yopu for getting Pokemon popular, but you shoulda’ done business fairly. Instead you screwed up Pokemon AND Yu-Gi-oh, and must pay the price. And good luck Veronica Taylor :).

  13. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-31/4kids-files-shareholders-report-on-yu-gi-oh-lawsuit

    4Kids might end up saving “Yu-Gi-Oh!” in the U.S. if proven not guilty. But NAS thinks that 4Kids aren’t trustworthy, so even if NAS wins the case they might have to find an another U.S. anime licensor.

  14. Folks, keep in mind that at this point, the Japanese licensors’ allegations are just that — allegations. It’s still too early to say that 4Kids is getting what it deserves when the facts haven’t been fully laid out and the judicial system hasn’t weighed in. However, for the licensors to go out of their way to actually file a case in U.S. court…
    @Joseph Hostage
    If the licensors win the case, the rights to the Yu-Gi-Oh! property will be changing hands. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. (BTW, a licensor grants a license to a licensee. The Japanese parties are the licensors. 4Kids is the licensee.)

  15. Goodness, 4Kids is doing so well with “Yu-Gi-Oh!”. They did good at subtitling and releasing uncut “Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s” and the uncut subtitled “Yu-Gi-Oh! GX” was about to be released on Toonzaki and Hulu. And now NAS is about to take away 4Kids’ license of “Yu-Gi-Oh!”. I am always a fan of the uncut Japanese versions of the “Yu-Gi-Oh!” series. Remember 4Kids did the 2004 U.S. “Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie” and “Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters” anime with Japan? “Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie” was released in American theaters on 8/13/04 and released in Japan during Special Screenings on 11/3/04 and aired it on TV Tokyo on 1/02/05. “Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie” was known in Japan as “Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters: Pyramid of Light” and contained 11 minutes of uncut extended footage. I am crossing my fingers that “Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters ALEX” will be released in Japan just like “Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters: Pyramid of Light” whether the Japanese licensors wins the lawsuit or 4Kids not being guilty.

  16. I’m not sure about this myself, but I wonder if 4Kids already secured the rights to Zexal during the airing of Yu-Gi-Oh 3D: Bonds Beyond Time. I heard from someone that during the end of the movie, something else showed up…maybe it’s a preview of Zexal. Then again, if that were true, then anyone that’s seen the movie would already know about it, thus revealing a little bit of evidence that Zexal would premeire in the US. Though I could probably be wrong about this, so feel free to correct me if you need to.

    I think, and this is just me speaking, but maybe 4Kids keeps their shows under roof until it’s ready to be released. Or shortly afterwards.

  17. Your friend was pulling your leg. There was no preview for the next Yu-Gi-Oh! series at the end of the movie.

  18. If 4Kids lose they’ll end up having a Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.

  19. Of course. After all, they’d want to try and protect their business from going under.

  20. TV Tokyo and NAS still have plans to release “Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL” in Japan. “ZEXAL” will air on TV Tokyo channel on 4/11/11. Is Japan still working on the “Duel Monsters ALEX” project?

  21. No, that seems pretty unlikely. I already answered that question in my first reply to you.

  22. Okay.

  23. Who’s going to dub “Yu-Gi-Oh!” for America?

  24. This honestly surprises me. I can’t believe there are so many Pro-4Kids people here.

    Just so everyone knows, the license agreement with 4Kids on Yu-Gi-Oh! has already been terminated. (Google it) 4Kids no longer has rights to their series.

    This is a blessing in my opinion. 4Kids has had a shady chairman for years. They try to completely rewrite Japanese scripts to what they see fit, and edit out anything that’s great about what makes anime “ANIME” in the first place.

    I was so happy when they lost the license to One Piece a couple of years back, and just like One Piece, FUNimation is going to be there to pick up the pieces when Yu-Gi-Oh! doesn’t have anyone to distribute in English.

    I honestly hope when they crumble that FUNimation picks up every single one of 4Kids licenses. They’ll have decent voice acting, no editing, japanese audio with subtitles, and a much better production value in general. I can’t wait to own Yu-Gi-Oh!, Shaman King, Sonic X, and many other animes on DVD with FUNimation behind the wheel.

    I hope everything I just said all comes to pass.

  25. @Trey: 4Kids technically still holds the Yu-Gi-Oh liscense until further notice by the court. Right now, the claims made by TV Tokyo and NAS are only allegations. Nothing more. Also, even if it is true, Funimation isn’t safe either. They might also be in trouble as well.

    Two: No offense, but you sound like one of those anime fanbrats who praises Funimation like a god and treats 4Kids like a devil. You obviously have no idea on how marketing works.

    First off, there’s no point redubbing every anime series 4Kids has. It would be a waste of time and your basically promoting old stuff that doesn’t need anymore advertisement, in which again, the series itself would lose money. Add to the fact that redubbing an anime series, like Yu-Gi-Oh, would cost a lot of money to do and even more to distribute them on DVD. In other words, stop living in the past and move on into the future.

    You also need to realize that not everyone hates 4Kids, like many hardcore anime fans. As an anime fan, I love 4Kids. They introduced many people to anime like Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and even Sonic X. All of which I loved as kid and still love it even today.

  26. I hope the lawsuit goes over nice and easy. If 4Kids, TV Tokyo, and NAS can just reach an agrement then there maybe a chance that they’ll partner back up to bring the Yugioh series to the US and 4Kids can keep dubbing and airing Yugioh.

  27. In all seriousness, 4kids should just fuck off die. We dont need their garbage, they should dissapear like a bad dream because of the crimes they have comitted against anime and the way they have treated us, western fans as complete retards with their ridiculous, over the top censoring and editing. I hope everyone in that company ends up jobless and the CEOS in jail where they belong. DIE 4KIDS!!!

  28. @4Kids Wow…I really hope that was a troll post. Because if not, then you sir/madam are really heartless. People who work at 4Kids have jobs and earn money to provide for their families and loved ones. How would you like it if you worked at a company and you ended up jobless, hm? You know finding another job isn’t easy.

    Also, I find it ironic that your user name is named after the company you supposedly ‘hate’. Irony, isn’t it?

  29. while i personaly thing 4kids should loose the yugios lisence rights i agree that if they are found guilty it will cost people jobs in addition to affecting future anime dubbing

  30. i don’t think 4kids will air Yu-Gi-Yoh i doubt that because,it was totally their fault sharing with Fumination would also have to pay, 4kids (username) is right (i am not saying i hate 4kids) 4kids will loose lots of money they will have to go through liquidation if their is no buyer but what if Time Warner bought them that would be a bad idea.no buyer they would have to end their Broadcast deals with CBS and Time Warner and including sales with Viz,Fumination,and Pioneer dubbing rights and sales. but what would CBS and Time Warner Do if Cw4kids is gone? of course Sonic Phantom is also right about 4kids their will be a buyer if not i don’t know what to say at this point…

  31. I believe that 4Kids and almost everyone in it is innocent of these heinous charges and are victims of Warner Bros’ and FOX’s cruel multi-biased viewpoints and employees, but that will all change once I graduate from college and save the company! (I hope.) In the meantime, I will pray that God will keep the company afloat until I can get my buisness and Children’s Ed. degree. If anyone thinks I dream too much, they have an uncanny habit of coming true.

  32. I don’t understand why everyone hates 4kids either. I personally like all of 4kids shows and if I have a problem with it then I’ll watch a subtitled version. Just be happy they are bringing these anime to the US (or in my case, Canada :) in the first place.

    Anyway, I hope 4kids gets to keep the yugioh license because if they don’t, you can say good bye to yu-gi-oh’s English dub, the rest of the undubbed yugioh gx episodes, yugioh 5Ds, and possibly even the new one (Zexal?) I did hear that another company will take over the 3D movie in America, I can’t remember who though… I would think 4kids would be allowed to air the remaining 5Ds episodes, but who knows? I hope 4kids gets to keep yugioh, because I KNOW Tai Chi Chasers isn’t going to be as successful as yugioh :P

  33. Geesh thats why Yu-Gi-Oh complete season 5 & 5 DVDs haven’t been releases. I hope someone pics it up and produces the last 2 season so I can complete my series. And yes I want it dubbed!

  34. Take it from them they have ruined enough animes already….Just kidding what will us yu-gi-oh Fans do without yu-gi-oh? it would die out and be a failed tcg and it’s the best one out there!

  35. thank goodness 4kids does not own yugioh any more! im sick of there dubbing and censoring, i just hope some one more suitable for the job, will do the dubbing.

  36. thts no fare i want to see yu gi oh gx season 4 but thank u 4kids for messing tht up

  37. um no offense @Sonic Phantom but i loved 4kids ever since pokemon but when they lost the rights to one piece even i found them to be close to the devil. and i have wished ever since they put off dubbing yugioh gx season 4 that this would happen. and now that they did that to the last 12 episodes of yugioh 5ds now im certain what needs to happen. Funimation obviously was not aware of what was happening or they wouldn’t have worked with 4kids. so it goes without saying that they need to get the dubs from 4kids. so yes they are the devil. there is a pokemon episode where James says that 4kids are the devil. its when James gets his head stuck in a weepingbell. look it up on youtube.com if you don’t believe me. BTW funimation is the best dubbing company in this business. censorship sucks so don’t say it doesn’t. i feel sorry for funimation if they get caught in 4shame entertainments problems. seriously they don’t deserve to pay for 4kids or 4shame’s problems.

  38. What the hell happened to 5ds.The dubbed series just ended with Aporia’s defeat and there was supposed to be more to it than just that.I don’t know exactly what’s going on but I remember hearing that dubbed series came to a complete stop due to a lawsuit.Man the world is so crazy now these days.I wonder how is zexal going to turn out?will it meet the same fate as 5ds and gx?

  39. I personally hope that funimation, viz, or some other GOOD company gets the rights to all the 4kids anime. since they stopped dubbing yugioh gx with only season 4 left i have hated the choices they have made in reguards to their censorship and not finishing what they have started (not dubbing what was left of yugioh gx AND 5d’s). also the fact that they have either stopped or never started distribution of their shows on dvd. i just want to make things clear i neither hate or like 4kids. and as much as i want 4kids to lose the rights to yugioh i would never want the people who work for 4kids to lose their jobs due to the company going bankrupt but instead i would prefer that 4kids be bought by another company.

  40. Oh, I really hope this all turns out. I used to love the original Yu-Gi-Oh when I was little and now I love Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds. But if they do lose the lisence, will some other company get the lisence? And if so, will the voices of the characters be the same?
    I honestly don’t know what to think. I don’t go a day without thinking about 5Ds and I don’t know what I’d do without it. This is the first I’ve heard of the lawsuit, but, again, I REALLY hope this turns out. If it doesn’t, is there another site or place that dubs 5Ds?

  41. The trial ended and the court decided in favor of 4Kids.

  42. if yu gi oh products stop selling or being made someone drop a nuke on the world i could not live without it

  43. i really hope they would continue the episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds and the other Yu-Gi-Oh series because i enjoy watching it on 4kids especially in english. So please put it back on 4kids.

  44. Well, hopefully 4kids isnt losing workers and such. Tough finding new jobs in this economy. Ifind that I had no problem with their dubs cause I was a kid man, I didnt care about censership. Just about pikachu and atam/yami kickin ass on there shows.

  45. this sucks just because i am a kid inside and love to watch Yu-GI-Oh Gx and im not a big fan of the japan and reading the tittles and its confusing with the diffs of names and such sooo come on!!!!

  46. Sheesh i can’t believe people on here actually like 4kids. Some of you must be very ignorant to anime. I mean why would you like a company that literally takes anime and changes it/rewrites it to the point that it’s barely recognizable? It changes anime into abominations. Hope they go under. You’re better off watching some of these animes with english subs on the internet. 4kids has ridiculously terrible edits.

    Watch and learn.

  47. you know, NAS know when they cut the english version of Yu-Gi-Oh! there will be a large amount of money lost to because not everybody speaks japanese but most people speaks and understands english soif they cut it they are probably skrewed!

  48. right.. so has 4Kids got the license for Yu-Gi-Oh or not? Season 4 of Yu-Gi-Oh (waking the dragons) is my favourite season (besides dawn of the duel) and its not completely out on dvd. So, if they do have the license for Yu-Gi-Oh, are 4Kids releasing all missed episodes on dvd or is someone else doing it? And is the last season of Yu-Gi-Oh GX going to be dubbed also, along with the missed episodes of 5D’s? (though in my opinion, 5D’s should be redone completely. the english dub left SO much of the story line out, to the point that the Grand Prix season doesn’t make much sense. and i quite like yu-gi-oh 5d’s).

  49. I don’t get why so many people hate 4Kids, either. I honestly am perfectly fine with them because the voice actors are good, in my opinion, and entirely likable to hear. Plus, a good amount of them are familiar to me and I kind of grew up with their dub of Pokemon and Yugioh, even shows like Tai Chi Chasers (I’m only 14, so I’m STILL “growing up” with these shows.) I mean, the company IS called “4Kids,” so it makes sense that they’d censor what they feel should be censored for people of ALL
    ages because they felt some of it would just be too violent or lewd. I personally love the dubbed version and the subbed version, the latter of which is NOT cut, so if people really can’t stand the censorship, can’t they just get used to the subtitled Japanese version? And I realize I’m probably a lot behind this whole issue, so I read ravegrl’s comment that the court voted IN FAVOR of 4Kids, which I suspected because, despite the fact that I missed a lot of earlier Yu-Gi-Oh!-franchised series, I saw (I think) the ENTIRE first season of Zexal and recognized voices from the few episodes of 5D’s that I saw. I had heard about the lawsuit, though I didn’t know much about it at the time, and when I heard the voices, I was like, “Yay! I think 4Kids might still be dubbing it!” BTW, I LOVE Funimation, so it’s not like I wouldn’t have liked hearing their voices, but regardless, I’m still glad 4Kids is still going. Anyway, I’m glad that 4Kids seems to have escaped this mess, because I want them to keep dubbing the franchise. Also, like I mentioned already, I missed A LOT of episodes of the Yu-Gi-Oh! series, so I just thought I’d mention that I’ve started from the very first episode of Season 0, and from there, have gone on to Duel Monsters (which I’m currently on), alternating every episode between dubbed and subbed. And I have to say, I love both versions unconditionally. Also watching YGO TAS from episode 1. LittleKuriboh and his friends are genius! Yu-Gi-Oh! and 4Kids, live on forever!

  50. Let me start by saying I’m very sad to see what purists and assholes have made 4Kids seem like, and if they ever go into dub work again, I’d consider it an honor if I got the fortunate privilege to work for them, or FUNimation, or Viz Media, or any other company. If you don’t like 4Kids, go watch the “perfect” Japanese version and leave the rest of us alone. You know what I think? 4Kids was better at dubbing Pokemon than the current dubber, TPCi, who I think is FAR worse at dubbing the Pokemon anime. Let that sink in for a while, 4Kids haters. What’s wrong with their Yu-Gi-Oh dub of the second series? Oh, that’s right, nothing. Unless you want the uncut Singapore dub which has terrible voice over work. I think 4Kids wasn’t that bad at all, just people complaining about something they probably couldn’t do as well themselves. Pity what these anime “fans” have let happen to the company. Let me just say this- 4Kids, you were a fine dubbing company. You made stupid edits, you cut things out, but you know what’s important to me as an anime fan? To put your heart into your work, to go the extra mile to make a product you feel is better, and get up after falling down. I support 4Kids all the way and their venture into sports merchandising. Thank you, 4Kids, for giving me some great dubs back in the early 00’s. You’ll be missed…by a TRUE fan of English dubs. Thank you.

  51. I know that 4kids is pretty good about yugioh, but i think that the problem is that sometimes they fuck things up and i don’t think that the japanese people get that. i’m not saying they’re stupid, but they just don’t get that. The mistakes that 4kids and all of the side companies make in terms of yugioh, is just to make more money. that’s my story

  52. Another thing about 4kids and their yugioh franchise. Leave them alone. I really have to say this to you guys in japan, who like their “Perfect” series, grow the fuck up and grab all of your big boy and girl panties and let’s move on. You all are causing more stress to this situation. Let’s all of us, fans, executive officers of 4kids and all of the joint companies that make yugioh, and especially the people in tokyo who can’t seem to grow up, let’s try to diffuse this situation.

  53. *Orichalcos Yugi getting defeated* : NOOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOOOoooo!!!

  54. This is sooooo not fair! Yu-Gi-Oh! Dubbed CAN’T be sued from Tokyo TV! I have been a fan of Yu-Gi-Oh! since it first aired on TV, 10 years ago!
    I’m not just a fan….I’m a HUGE FAN! So huge in fact, I wrote a fan fic in script form of both Yu-Gi-Oh! & Yu-Gi-Oh! GX!

  55. i agree

  56. i honestly don’t really care about the whole 4kids being sued thing. i know some of you guys might end up hating me for saying that because that is pretty much what this whole mess is about, 4kids fucking up, and trying to be punished for it… But it’s like i said, i honestly dont care! what i do care about is the anime they are letting be screwed over by this. I am a nerd, i love all of the Yu-Gi-Oh! shows, and i wish these people would get off their high horses and realize that the real source of income is us. We are the audience, and with this stupid ass lawsuit, they are only hurting themselves by pissing us off!!!

    I am sorry for cursing, i am just really upset about the fact that some of my favorite anime might never be dubbed! I am okay with the jap. versions, but i am dyslexic, so i can’t really watch them, so, it doesn’t do much for me.

    Oh, and with that whole “4kids anime sucks” deal, you have to understand, this is/was supposed to be made for all ages so they had to dull the shine of the anime to work.

  57. I loved Yu-Gi-Oh 5D’s ever since episode 1 to 154. Why would this happen. I got upset when Yu-Gi-Oh 5D’s ended. To me it did give a god ending but not the perfect ending ever. They should continue there series on another channel, and they should make more episodes. They should make it end around 190 to 200 episodes

  58. Honestly, the ONLY reason I’m worried about this is because of Yu-Gi-Oh’s English Localization. I never liked 4kids, and part of me is glad that they lost the license to YGO, since it’s due to them that a game and show that’s supposed to be for young adults like me is “for little kids” over here. I mean, most of the YGO characters and Protags are teenagers, or in the case of 5Ds in their late teens to early 20s. Obviously it’s going to be a bit on the adult side and aimed towards young adults. So, honestly, part of me can’t still say that this is a terrible thing. After all, I can’t stand the company, and honestly their dub work was pretty terrible.

    Still, I am worried about the YGO anime’s future in other countries now. I’ve grown up with the series since I was little, and even though I’ve taken more to watching the subs, I’d still like to see the most recent season, Arc-V, in English some day. I hope someone else picks it up, and it’s able to be geared towards the audience it’s supposed to be for — children and adults alike, instead of just being seen as a kids’ show or game by most people outside the fandom. I know I got a lot of weird looks for playing YGO when I was in high school, and I don’t want that to keep happening to other teenagers.

    Still, this makes YGO’s standing in America shaky. I hope such a cash cow won’t be given up on, and a better company will nab the rights to it. I hate 4Kids, but I don’t want to see English YGO completely vanish. So, here’s hoping guys.

  59. I know I’m 2 years late with the comments, looks life 4kids also effect how Animated Movies are sent since they are now own by japan as 4kids media, On September 15, 2016 it was then english Dub Premiere of Digimion Avanture Tri Chapter 1 Reunion for 1 day only in theatre, My region theater did not aired it because it was a bad business Idea. I really sure when Yugioh dark side of demansion get release in english dub, for kids media might do. The one day theatre release, which his really stupid, if they want to receive the cash for it. So what do you think? Does mistake done by 4kids media, make you which that 4 kids was still in business.

  60. Fuck yea! 4Kids ruined my childhood! I had to rewatch their anime in japaness cause i missed so much!

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